Taking the Dolmuş
Lesson 26beginner Turkish Beginner
Taking the Dolmuş
There's no more Turkish way to travel than the crowded (and cheap) yellow van known as the dolmuş. Jam yourself in and join today's lesson to learn how to get where you need to go in style.
Present continuous vs. simple present.
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Ryan
Hi guys - I'm really stuck on the translation questions for this topic.

Onlar geldi gittik gelince

Çalışmak ne kadar sürer?

These are wrong but can someone tell me why, please?
Apr 28, 2013
Justin
Hi! Happy to help.

Okay, for the first one, we want to express "as soon as we went." We learned in this lesson that we can do that with -ince. So, using gitmek, we get "biz gidince." Then, to finish, you already have the correct phrase: "onlar geldi." Remember that the main verb of a Turkish sentence should go at the end. Can you get it now? :)

Okay, for the second one, you're very close. Just realize that we aren't talking about "working" - we're talking about GOING to work. So, if I tell you that work is "iş" - can you get it now? :)
Apr 29, 2013
Ryan
Saol :)

Biz gidince onlar geldi.

İşe gitmek ne kadar sürer?

di mı?
Apr 29, 2013
Raoul
'Bir kişi uzatir misiniz?'
Vowel is wrong I think. Should be:
'Bir kişi uzatır mısınız?'

Also 'Sinem' is called 'abi', which is strange because she is a woman, also 'sir' is used in the translation.
May 18, 2013
Raoul
'Şu an evine gidiyorum.
I am coming to her house now.'

Why not 'Şu anda'?
May 18, 2013
Raoul
'kalkmak = to get up'
is translation given in vocab, and is right.
But better is to add:
'to leave'
which will fit the context more.
May 18, 2013
Justin
@Raoul - thanks for catching that typo. Fixed! :)

Ha, yes - sometimes we don't know if we're going to have girls or guys recording the dialogs. "Abla" is the female equivalent. I'll go in and change it.

Finally, we generally like to give the most broad definition of words in the vocab section so people don't mistakenly learn the word in an overly specific context. Knowing that kalkmak means something like "to get up" helps understand why it means "to leave" in the context of the dialog, as well as why it means what it does in other very different contexts.

Thanks so much for your help and comments, Raoul :)
May 20, 2013
Justin
Oh, and "şu an" and "şu anda" are colloquially equivalent.
May 20, 2013
Robyn
The dolmus here in Fethiye are a bit different I guess and are 'indi bindi' (get on and off as you please) for a standard 2TL. One of my first dilemmas in learning to speak Turkish was to ask the driver to stop when I wanted to get off. I eventually learned to say 'musait bir yerde lutfen' (at a conveninent place please) or in the town centre where they are only allowed to drop off at bus stops - 'durakta lutfen' - if he didn't hear me sometimes Turkish folk would helpful shout at the driver 'incek var'. The big belediye buses here are easier with a button to push to ask the driver to stop. They are modernising the belediye buses here now with magnetic pass entry (prepaid cards you swipe on entry). I can't wait to get my Turkish version of pensioner bus pass here next week (10TL for a year when you turn 65 - even as a 'yabanci' I can get one apparently). x
Oct 03, 2013
Silvia
Hello,

The correct form (ince) in Izlemek is izlince?

and how about in okumak?

sagol!
Dec 12, 2013
Justin
Actually, -ince takes a buffer y instead of dropping the vowel.

So, the correct form of izlemek is izleyince.

Okumak would be okuyunca. :)
Dec 12, 2013
Dex
so, how would you say, "it will take 1hour by driving"?
Sürecek 1 saat sürecek?
Mar 21, 2014
Justin
I see what you're getting at. You can say,

Sürerek bir saat sürecek.

But colloquial Turkish would prefer,

Arabayla (or otobüsle, etc.) bir saat sürecek.
Mar 21, 2014
Dex
true, same in english. Thanks Justin.
Mar 21, 2014
Öğrenci
Would you not put an accusative suffix when you are asking about the specific dolmus? ie dolmusu? i have JUST heard your podcast about accusative suffix on direct and specific objects and am a little confused. thanks
Nov 04, 2014
Justin
Merhaba öğrenci!

Are you talking about the first line in the dialog?

In that case, we don't use the accusative because dolmuş is not the object of a verb. When we use the word "object," we are speaking in the grammatical sense. Something is the object of a verb if the verb is acting on it. For example,

He threw the ball.

What did he throw? The ball. "Throw" is acting on "the ball." "The ball" is the object.

In the case of the first sentence in the dialog, dolmus is the subject of the sentence. It is doing the verb (gitmek), not being acted on by it. Therefore, no accusative.

Does that make sense?
Nov 05, 2014
Öğrenci
It does. Thanks:)
Nov 05, 2014
Can
When Senim says "Bir kişi uzatır mısınız?" is she speaking to another passenger to pass her money along to the driver or is she speaking to the driver directly?
Jan 03, 2015
Can
Ignore my previous post. I went brain-dead for a moment
Jan 04, 2015
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